Players And Cheaters Beware: Lying To A Lover Could Become A Criminal Offense

For anyone who ever wanted to press charges against a lying ex, listen up!

In New Jersey, there’s currently a bill under construction that could potentially go after those no-good snakes and charge them with something called “sexual assault by deception.”

The bill was originally introduced last year by Assemblyman Troy Singleton (D-Burlington) and would make “sexual assault by fraud a punishable offense.”

How does the bill define such fraud?

Well, according to the proposed legislation, it’s “an act of sexual penetration to which a person has given consent because the actor has misrepresented the purpose of the act or has represented he is someone he is not.”

A huge proponent of the bill is mom-turned-activist Mischele Lewis (pictured above), who was shocked to discover the man she fell in love with turned out to be a con artist.

Her heartbreaking story was even detailed in an episode of Dateline.

The abridged version: When Lewis fell for Liam Allen, she thought he was a secret agent with the British government. Turns out, he was a bigamist who had been convicted of indecent assault of a minor. Allen eventually pleaded guilty to third-degree theft by deception and is currently serving out a three-year sentence.

“I think it’s important because trying to deceive anyone for the purpose of sexual gratification is just wrong,” Lewis told reporters. “Whether it’s as simple as… they slip off their wedding ring and then engage in a relationship with someone, but the man or woman has no idea that the person they are with is married. Lying to someone else for any reason is never OK.”

Related: Wife Punishes Cheating Husband By Snipping Off His Penis With Pair Of Scissors –Twice!

On the one hand, sexual predators who lure victims with deceptive means should definitely be punished.

However, does the proposed bill cast too wide a net? And will such a broad definition of the crime pose a threat of potentially clogging up the legal system?

These and more concerns have been addressed by people like Yale law professor Jed Rubenfield, who wrote in a 2013 edition of the Yale Law Review, “Rape-by-deception is almost universally rejected in American criminal law. But if rape is sex without the victim’s consent—as many courts, state statutes and scholars say it is—then sex-by-deception ought to be rape, because as courts have held for a hundred years in virtually every area of the law outside of rape, a consent procured through deception is no consent at all.”

According to a memo by the Office of Legislative Services, at least five states—Tennessee, Alabama, California, Colorado, and Montana—already have some sort of crime defined as sex by fraud.”

If Singleton’s bill passes, lying lovers might want to think twice before fibbing to their significant other.

Tell us what you think of the bill. Share your thoughts in the comments.

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  • mlmtmm

    Ridiculous! Women get some brains and some pride. Just because you get dumped or fooled … doesn’t give you the right to take something you gave consent for and to try and turn it into a crime. Get to know a person better for jumping into bed with them and believing everything they say. It’s a lie not something as horrible as rape or assault. (I am a woman, too).

    • Carolyn Lee

      I agree women should be a bit more careful ,as its obvious that men ,most men are just full of bullshit ,sad that men go to such extremes to poke their doodle somewhere,and a shame that we cant trust them,but yes ladies use your brains if you value yourself and your kids if you have any ,goes to show no sex before marriage really does have benefits.And why does it always result in someone wanting money that’s just like getting paid for services rendered ,that’s slighty off too sue because you don’t have the insight to really know someone before you jump into bed with them,pfft greed it is free money for being a fool,
      yes I am a female ,

      • Karin Alberga

        Marriage is no guarantee that your spouse will not cheat. A certificate and a ring will not protect you.

        • Cecilia A Sparks

          Neither is insight if the guy is mirroring your every move and had practice on victims before.

          • Charles J Shumar

            What do threesomes or alternative lifestyles have to do with conning someone out on thier money. Many normal people around the world live normal lives in alternative lifestyles.

        • Brioli

          This has NOTHING to do with cheating…it goes so much further than that…believe me!

          • John Wilson Fraudulent Acts Of

            Thank you someone with brains and who has either been with these evil vIle monsters or has read about sociopaths, psychopaths and Narcissists.

      • Brioli

        You cannot tell when they are really good at it. Nobody should be allowed to enter a family under lies and false pretenses and get away with it. There are so some serious frauds out there. Count your blessings it hasn’t happened to you. Even the smartest, most independent and successful can fall victim. Make no mistake…just be thankful it hasn’t happen to you. How do I know? You wouldn’t make this claim if it had.

        • Carolyn Lee

          Brioli maybe it has happened to me that’s why im saying women should be more careful instead of jumping in too quick

    • I did not give William Jordan the bigamist, international con man, child molester affirmative permission. I didn’t jump into bed with him until we were well established in our relationship months down the line. He had mail, credit cards, etc in his alias name, so why would I have ever suspected otherwise? When I found out the truth, I felt horribly violated and have gone through the same psychological damage as someone of traumatic rape: nightmares, paranoia, anxiety, depression, fear….. There are 4 other states with existing laws, 3 additional states with partial laws and 3 others states with similar laws in legislation. It seems like a radical concept now, but so did the idea of gay marriage 20 years ago and now it’s widely accepted.

      • Karin Alberga

        I didn’t give Joseph Gordon, late of Schenectady NY, now living in Latham NY (because his gf kicked him out after finding out he’d been cheating on her for years), retired from being an Albany NY City Carrier for the USPS and is now the leasing consultant of Lake Shore Park Apartments, permission to lie to me either.

      • mlmtmm

        I think comparing being lied to and made a fool to as being the same thing as being raped is horrible and very wrong. No comparison!!

        • Cecilia A Sparks

          She never said the words “being lied to and made a fool..” Those are your words, not hers. For years young women, etc. who were raped were made to feel they will be embarrassed or again victimized when they come forward. Imagine that. I’m sure victims also feel the same way when trying to explain their treatment by narcs/psychs/s’paths who are non-believers. Do nothing, and there will never be justice. I, for one, am glad that one woman decided to do something.

    • hotsalsa

      Totally incorrect- men can deceive very well for very long period of time to get the girls hooked- it’s the ammo of the player and cheater !! Even very smart girls get taken.

    • Cecilia A Sparks

      Do you say that to private investigators who have all these tools at their disposal; women who mirror the man, men who mirror the women, only to find 6 months later they are totally different person? You’ve just been fortunate enough not to be “chosen” by one of them. READ!

      • mlmtmm

        I have been fooled before by someone … but, I did not sue them or have them arrested (or whatever else). I ended the relationship … that’s what you do ..

        • Cecilia A Sparks

          Fooled, maybe not lost a huge chunk of your retirement, or had your parents ripped off by someone who pretended to be something they weren’t towards their own end. Depends on the amount of money taken. Depends on the circumstances. You don’t know everyone’s story, so it’s not clear cut. Right, let’s all look the other way and add to the number of victims in a very lucrative business for Narc/psychs. With an attitude of entitlement, the number of victims will multiply.

    • Brioli

      Your an idiot and probably know you will be the first to get prosecuted.

      • mlmtmm

        Apparently you are the idiot since you obvioulsy do not know proper English. It is you’re not your.

    • Brioli

      and it’s totally a rape if you fake who you are…even if you get to know someone (I waited over 6 months) people can keep up a facade for a long, long, time. If you lie about who you are, seems you should pay the price!

      • mlmtmm

        You are disgusting to compare a lie to a rape. You are a bitter, pathetic fool! No wonder the person lied to you! You deserve it!

        • Brioli

          Funny a fool is someone who believes that a person deserves to be lied to for any reason whatsoever….which they don’t. Seems you are scared now…ppl like you should be …it is a form of rape…because the person is sleeping with a total stranger…they should go down so maybe you need to buckle down and get real instead of being a cowardly liar

          • mlmtmm

            WTF are you even talking about? How am I the liar here?

          • mlmtmm

            And um…rape is being forced against your will. Sleeping with a stranger (as you claim here) is still your choice not force.

  • Stanley_Cheeba

    OR…We could choose to be adults, make better dating decisions, and/or learn to move on.

    • kyle stone

      But this is a legal concept applied in numerous areas of tort law so it is not exactly completely whacked out. There is just no practical application that would not require creating a whole new nation just to handle the lawsuits.

      • Cecilia A Sparks

        I’m sure the lawyers won’t mind. It’s very lucrative, but not a fair playing field. Suits like this intend to create fairness in court, where life has been one big lie. Again, the experience of being a victim in court is one never wished on another. You will be disarmed by the lies and left depleted by a system that is a playground for these monsters. No one should be told by others to lay down and take it. Especially no one who has truly been through this experience. Some just don’t get it.

        • kyle stone

          It would just be such a nightmare to enforce and then you can bet someone will come along and challenge the concepts of a promise versus a verbal commitment versus a monogamous or open relationship. It stinks that people have sex with others based on false circumstances and it is gaining consent under false pretenses but good grief it would be a legal nightmare.

          • Cecilia A Sparks

            It may be such a nightmare, but no more the nightmare that an individual suffers, not only at the hands of the NSP, but the flying monkeys, and the courts. I was worthy of being heard. I would love to sit and talk about this to someone who will have an open mind and let me show my evidence and what happened to me in court. The judge is really the one I want to hear and see my evidence. Education of lawyers, who will become judges one day is key. AS is the case, this would be a lengthy conversation. I appreciate your concern, but I am a victim, who does have the hard copy proof. I would like to make a measurable difference in the numbers of victims.
            “The only thing necessary for Evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.”–Edmund Burke

          • kyle stone

            Years ago I learned that due to physical abuse as a young man my chances of procreation were extremely slim. I pursued someone I worked with for several weeks and after finally giving up she surprisingly asked me out on a date. So we got pretty serious and a few months later she told me she was pregnant. We told all our friends and it was the greatest news I had ever heard. I went crack ape happy on prepping for fatherhood for a couple of months and we were living together. We even had an excruciating 3 hour conversation with her parents about marriage but stood my ground that having a child was not enough on its own to justify marriage. They hated me.
            One night she confessed the baby was not mine and she got pregnant when she went to a friend’s wedding that was out of town and she ran into an old romantic partner from her hometown. I had all the evidence I needed to prove deception and it was a nightmare.
            There is no way in hockey sticks it would work in a legal system because we have fooled ourselves into believing the justice system is a cure all for idiotic selfish human behavior. While I was completely innocent of dishonesty I had to accept the responsibility of choosing to be with her.
            It was naïve of me to believe it was my baby based on the medical information already in possession. I should have demanded physical proof the baby was mine before proceeding in the relationship and I chose not to. Her excuse was that she thought she could give me something I did not think I could have. In response I said that was complete bs. She felt guilty so she found a way to justify maintaining the lie.
            We need to realize the courts are necessary for justice in our society but they are limited in resolving human conflicts. Rather than a continued path of revenge we should seek forgiveness and share the information with others to help prevent it as much as possible.

          • Cecilia A Sparks

            Do nothing. That is your choice, but if given the option, I prefer to fight for my retirement funds. I worked hard for this money. These were loans, the word “loan” written on the checks and promised to be returned. He didn’t just swindle me. He used my emotions and perceived love to gain my trust to do his systematic bilking. He worked hard to keep his secrets from me, and every woman before and after. He lied in court and fabricated evidence to use business precedent to steal my retirement funds. I will never agree to the idea that I should accept this. I will repeat, I am not his first victim. He has become well-practiced in duping women. He will continue with the charade until each woman realizes something disturbing about him. This man must be stopped. If the law allows me to, I will. I just heard John Quinones quote Martin Luther King: “The moment we stop caring about others is the moment our lives begin to end. The moment we stay silent about things that matter is the day our lives begin to end.” There are a lot of people in pain due to NSP monsters.

    • It’s funny that guys, who are the biggest offenders of lying, have the most to say about this. I have moved on, but being victim #18 and a million dollars stolen later, I wanted to make it easier for men of this caliber to be prosecuted in the future.

      • Stanley_Cheeba

        “It’s funny that guys, who are the biggest offenders of lying, have the most to say about this.”

        Yeah, you certainly don’t have any issues… say “hi” to your 50 cats for me.

        • Why would you assume I have cats or any pets at all? I am a college educated professional. I am raising my kids and care for an elderly grandparent. I am lucky to have an amazing support system, thanks.

          • Stanley_Cheeba

            I hope you get the help you clearly need. Good luck.

          • I didn’t say all men are liars. If you can find where I have ever said that, I will own up to it. You are ASSuming. How is it poor taste when I was lied to from the first hello? I was with that man for over a year, engaged to and about to have him move in with me and my kids before I ever found out the truth. He had fake documents to potentiate his lies, so when did that become MY bad decision and not HIS bad decision to lie to me, get caught and arrested? How did this become victim blaming and not offender blaming? I don’t need help, thank you very much.

          • Stanley_Cheeba

            You were prey for a predator. That sucks, and I’m sorry that happened to you. That said, the language in the bill you’re supporting, e.g. ““an act of sexual penetration to which a person has given consent because the actor has misrepresented the purpose of the act or has represented he is someone he is not,” is completely insane. I had a serious girlfriend (before I met my future-now-wife), who lied with every breath she took. She was banging numerous men behind my back, she faked medical conditions so she could get prescription medications to which she was addicted (which I paid for), she lied about her job (and why I needed to support her sometimes), her family, her friends, everything. Am I fool and/or an unfortunate individual for dating this person? Yes. Does what she did constitute rape? No. Should she have been arrested for some of the things she did? Yes. Should she have been labeled a sex offender for the rest of her life? Probably not (although, I would have smiled inside if she were).

            What you’re doing could potentially make everyone to have a one-night-stand a rapist. Men AND women rarely tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth on dating websites. This law could make someone with buyer’s remorse file false charges even more easily, thus causing financial ruin to the other party. A false accusation of rape these days can ruin someone’s life, even if all charges are dropped and the plaintiff was found to be lying.

            While some lawsuits have merit, this might clog up the courts with BS claims of “rape by fraud,” and throw gasoline on the fire in an already sue-happy society.

          • I am sorry you had to deal with that. Nobody said that those accused of this would be listed as sex offenders. Nowhere does it ever say that, but that’s not to say that it won’t get classified that way. Maybe then we can change how society thinks and interacts with people. Maybe if someone knew they might end up on Meghan’s Law, then maybe they might be *shocking* honest with one another. *gasp* If you are a douche, start cleaning up your act. Again, it’s not for the little white lies. It’s for the egregious ones.

          • ajxes

            Isn’t it funny that all women think that its only men can lie. My wife lied tto me to get money and a good life. Yeas later find out she has laid the entire town she grew up in, but lied and said she was a virgin before we married. Both sides play this game…guys for sex and girls for money!

    • Cecilia A Sparks

      I pray you are never the victim of a narcissist, psychopath, or sociopath. These people “choose” their victims, watching and mirroring the person they plan to bilk of their finances, or abuse physically or mentally, once they get into a relationship. Until you’ve been referred to as crazy, because you cannot talk to anyone under threat of “defamation of character,” you have no idea what it is to be “chosen” to be a victim.

      • Stanley_Cheeba

        So it’s better to sue everyone because some people are suckers?

  • kyle stone

    The concept is a good idea but execution is freaking impossible. There is no way this could be good for anyone except ambulance chasers who change their avatars to Cupid with a sniper bullet in his head.
    This does remind me of brainstorm I had a few months ago to start a business called Blind Lighters. Whenever we shop for schools, jobs, homes, and other large life investments we typically do some research but when it comes to romantic partners we go by a completely different set of illogical love songs blended with archaic religious patterns and are basically walking in the dark.
    The service would offer an in-program third party check because customers would pay a nominal fee to test their partners’ faithfulness. If you suspect your partner may not be faithful we send in a decoy tailored to the situation. You know their likes and dislikes being able to provide the kind of information needed for optimal results. As the decoy begins everything is live streamed to your account so no recording laws would be violated and you would see for yourself if your partner is who she/he claims to be.
    An obvious objection would be to say “If you don’t trust your partner you shouldn’t be in the relationship” but that is a false dichotomy because it is not a matter of trusting or not trusting. It is simply an independent review no different than when you make other life impacting choices.
    If the person is faithful she/he never needs to know you sent a Blind Lighter and in fact, nobody else would ever need to know.

  • Toni Wilson Climpson

    GOOD I IDEA , NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO DECEIVE ANOTHER FOR OWN STUPID PLEASURES

    • Daniel Sharkey

      You gonna put a guy in jail bc he rented a Porsche for your date and you slept w him bc you thought he was rich? Bc that’s how this law would be applied.

      • No, it’s not how this law would be applied. It’s to catch the most egregious of liars, like the William Jordans of the world.

        • David Drato

          Right and we all know laws are always enforced by the way they are intended. Perhaps you should make some better life choices when it comes to men. The fact isyou consented to the relationship and now you are embarrassed because because you made poor choices in the man you slept with. Thatvis on you honey, secret agent OMG, you fell for that?

          • If I was so embarrassed why in the hell would I go public about it and try to change laws? It has nothing to do with poor decisions, it has everything to do with the fact that I had no idea of who I was truly with. He had all kinds of ID in his fake name and he did provide government documents which I not know are fake. You are sorely underestimating the lengths this man went to prove his lies. I am far from his first victim, there were dozens before me mostly with the same lies. He has over a dozen aliases as well. I just don’t want any man or woman to feel as violated as I did when I found out the truth.

          • Tabatha Ann

            Don’t listen to them. Tgeyvhave no clue what u went through. Kudos to you for standing up for yourself and the voiceless victims!!

          • Thanks Tabatha. 🙂

          • Karin Alberga

            None of us “consent” to being lied to. How goddamn hard is that for you, and too many men in general, sadly, to understand??? That is why *I* made the decision after my own experience to stay single, asexual, to live my own life and follow my own interests and not get involved in “romantic” relationships, because I exposed my heart, body and spirit to someone who was spitting and wiping his feet on it the whole time and I didn’t find out the full truth about it, and didn’t know enough at the time to really understand what was happening from his end, to stop it, until years of damage had been done. I came very close to cutting my wrists and ending my life over that piece of sh*t. Luckily, I am internally strong enough that I was able to get over that feeling and learn to live for myself rather than some man to whom I had to accept that I meant nothing more than as a sexual playtoy, a free prostitute (I loved sex, and I loved it even more with him – now I can’t stand the thought of any man touching me).

            And I’ve had a few guys since then start doing the flattering “talking up” that he did in the beginning, and I cut them off short, because just hearing the words, even in a different voice from a different man, skeeves me out. I want no part of it. If a guy wants to have a relationship with me, it’s going to be a platonic friendship ONLY; no romance, no sex, no shacking up or in any other way “combining” our lives.

            And yes, i do have a cat. She has proven to be a lot more loyal, and a much bigger support and boost for my emotional and psychological well being, than that @$$-hole was in 9 years.

            Until you have dealt with a sociopath you will never understand how easily they can snow people; even professionals in the field of psychology/psychiatry don’t understand it until they have been face to face with one.

          • Daniel Sharkey

            I dated a sociopath who would hit me, then threaten me with rape charges when I would tell her to leave my house. Spent 2 years with that psycho, afraid to break up w her bc of what she would do to me. Finally stopped having sex with her for a week, and escaped by moving out of my own home while she was at work.

            The way those laws can be weaponized by psychotic women is the reason men are so opposed to them. None of us want to protect the psychopaths of the world, we are simply aware of the the other side of the coin: women can use those laws for malicious purposes, so it should not be made overly easy. I know none of you ladies want to acknowledge this fact, but there are just as many evil women as there are men.

        • Daniel Sharkey

          The law is completely black and white, and does not consider magnitude Of violations. You don’t seem to understand that under such a law, telling a lover that you make 100 when you only make 80k is legally the same crime as what your scumbag did.

          • The penalty would be contingent on how severe the violation. Those with lesser lies might get off with a fine or probation, but jail time for the more severe cases. The law is still going to go through revisions to make it more palatable for the legislation to ever vote on it. It’s not cut in stone as it stands. I agree, it needs parameters and we are working on it. As for a difference of $20k in income is ludicrous. It doesn’t change ones lifestyle. It’s not a ” gold diggers” law and is not as shallow as aesthetics either.

          • Daniel Sharkey

            That’s not how the law works… either you lied or you didn’t. It’s the same law being violated, and a prosecutor will tell you the same, and eagerly pursue maximum sentencing for all charged bc that’s the job of a prosecuting attorney.

          • Karin Alberga

            And how about claiming to be a single and available man when he is, in fact, shacking up with one woman and sleeping around with multiple other women? We ALL had the right to know that he was involved with other women, but he chose both to not tell each of us that, but he also felt he had the right to choose for each of us that we would be involved in a 3+ way cheating scenario.

      • Karin Alberga

        No, it is not. It’s to punish people like the sociopath I was involved with, who got into a relationship with one woman, moved in with her and her teenage daughter (who he pretended to be a “step dad” to), and then he started having affairs with other women on the side (I was one of those women). Never asked his girlfriend for an open relationship (she had “issues with intimacy” as he put it), and never told us other women that he had a girlfriend, and that he was using us as a sexual outlet due to the fact that gf was asexual.

        I was the only one of us to figure it out, and when I had all the pieces put together, I notified the girlfriend, who promptly kicked him out. So he went after one of the other OWs, who in spite of knowing that he is a liar and a cheater, took up with him anyway. And then he tried to proposition me, so I gave him a huge dose of Truth Serum, like the fact that *I* was the reason his gf had found out about his cheating, and told him that we had never been friends or buddies or whatever, because all he had done was lie, gas light, blame shift and used me for his own gain.

        It’s been almost 2 years and I haven’t heard back from him since. If this were a law in NY State you can damn well bet I would be using it on him.

        • Daniel Sharkey

          I’m sorry for your misfortune, however prosecuting lying for the purpose of getting laid opens the door for vengeful lover to use the law as a weapon. The smallest lie can land a man in jail, and who hasn’t told a lie at some point in a relationship, especially early on? Furthermore, how does the accused defend himself from accusation of rape by deception? You forget that in the case of sex crimes, it is the accused who must prove innocence. How can one prove he “never said ___” without transcripts of every word spoken? Would you like your lover recording your every conversation for the means of protecting himself in case you get mad at him? These laws make such paranoid behaviors necessary. Is that what you want? Because that’s the world these laws create.

          • Karin Alberga

            Ever hear of text messages? I had a ton of them from the s’path that documented things he told me about himself that turned out to be lies. I also had voice mail recordings (you do know that they can be saved indefinitely now and not lost off the phone system after 30 days, right?). I also documented every encounter and conversation we had from 2008 on, because my life at that time was a shrine to someone who was not worthy of such adoration. Especially since he feeds off of that kind of attention. That’s why he lies and misrepresents himself, because if he were to show the type of person he really is no one (especially real women as opposed to dopey desperate females) would give him the time of day. I look back now and I laugh at the pretentiousness, boasting, bragging, name-dropping. So there is a lot of fodder for proof if it ever were to come to that. Unfortunately, we are in NY, not in NJ.

            And nope, sorry, the LAWS don’t create people having to be paranoid, it’s the narcissists and sociopaths and other people with personality disorders that create that world.

  • Daniel Sharkey

    Everyone lies to their lover at some point. Whether it’s how many partners you had, how much money you have or what your name is bc you don’t want that one-night stand stalking you on social media after the tryst, no one is 100% truthful. Sexual relationships aren’t bank loans.

    • Cecilia A Sparks

      Chronic, systematic lying toward one’s end. Then lying and fabricating to cover up the truth. I wonder. I have been giving blood for all of my adult life. One of the questions was

  • Ben L

    “…she thought he was a secret agent with the British government.” If that line works on you, then you forgo your right to be mad later on.

  • When I was 17, I got involved with a 26-year-old man who deceived me into believing he loved me and that he wanted to marry me. I had sex with him based on his representations. He also had told me he was divorced. After 2 months, I learned that he was NOT divorced (although separated), was living with a woman, and had only been interested in me because he thought my family had money. Unfortunately, I was pregnant when I learned this and spent 3 months puking my guts out and two months in an unwed mothers’ home. I would have LOVED to have pressed charges against this scumbag.

  • hotsalsa

    Awesome – I love an answer to the snakes who prey on women who trust. Then the good guys are pained from the ruined females with their paranoia that a man is going to cheat. I love this deterrent for men to begin to care about their vows and stop compromising morals for deceptive sex.

    • Karin Alberga

      This. I’m sure there are decent men out there, but I am not willing, now and possibly not ever, to take another chance after my experience with a sociopath.

  • Katy

    Or maybe people could just be honest with each other, OH there’s a concept!

  • David Drato

    Wow, take some responibility for being gullible lady! If you spread your legs for someone claimin to be a secret agent that is on you. This is really ridiculous. You made the choice to be with him, now you want a law passed because of your stupidity? How about closing your legs.

    • Karin Alberga

      How about you closing your mouth? You have absolutely no idea about the subject that is being discussed here. In fact, you sound an awful lot like a sociopath who’s just had his game revealed, and is going on the defensive as a result. I pity the woman/women who are involved with you.

      • David Drato

        Wow you sound just as nutty as this woman. 1. She consented to the relationahip , while she was still married fyi,. 2. She has to be missing some IQ points because he made her send money before he would talk to her (read dateline story) and he said he was a spy (really?). 3. I am gay lol so I don’t mess with women nor do I feel the need to lie to my partner.

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    This whole article makes Barney Stinson cry.

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  • Cecilia A Sparks

    They need to address covert narcissism in the same way. Men and women are mirroring potential victims with the purpose of systematically bilking them of their finances. Victims are again victimized in the court room as narcissists lie repeatedly on the witness stand in tandem with manipulating the court’s time and staging fabricated answers and evidence.

    • Charles J Shumar

      You realize narcissism isnt what you describe. The definition of it is:

      extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one’s own talents and a craving for admiration, as characterizing a personality type.

      My cats a narcissist, as is someone I know. But they don’t run around defrauding people.

      • Cecilia A Sparks

        Excuse me while I edit to narcissism/psychopathy. Like all disorders there is a spectrum, and the “mask” does not drop until the “game” is discovered. Most defining and characterizing of these people are not clear cut, and the terms are used interchangeably. It’s most difficult getting these people diagnosed. Pick as you will, these are people who systematically plan schemes, mirror, and deceive their targets towards their own end. I am victim no. 3 or 4 of a man who has bilked the finances of not only significant others, but many others, having plans set in motion to walk away from the debt when they can no longer control that end. Having been sued in a court of law, they lie profusely to destroy their victims, manipulating courts. http://www.lovefraud.com/2013/04/22/open-letter-lawyers-clients-involved-sociopaths/

        • Charles J Shumar

          Ms. Sparks, you were taken in by a con artist. While con artists are usually narcissistic, not all narcissists are con artists. To follow your logic, if a type of criminal is primarily made up of one group of people, then that group of people all do that. So let me ask, are all white males serial killers, are all middle eastern people terrorists? By your logic they would be. I guess before you judge an entire group of people you should think. Also, just so you know, people have been convicted of many forms of fraud but have never served time for narcissism.

          • Cecilia A Sparks

            A narcissist/psyche. A measured degree of respect in presenting evidence to the court. Talk to me after this happens to you or one of your relatives and that person come to you for compassion. Justice here was served.

          • Charles J Shumar

            You aren’t making sense. I noticed you avoided the question concerning your flawed logic. Because you are not willing to answer a question that disproves your assertion that all narcissistic people are con men preying on others but still maintain that you know more than me it would indicate you yourself have narcissistic tendancies. Your use of avoidance in the discussion also shows me you don’t value the opinion of others leading me to believe that in your past relationships you use a combination of avoidance and trasferrence to move any fault of the failure of the relationship onto your partner, labelling them as a narcissist allowing you to claim innocence. Also don’t assume what I have gone through.

          • Cecilia A Sparks

            You are not the victim, and I am talking about misrepresenting oneself in order to get their trust and emotions, laying a groundwork for this and bilking them of their finances. I told you there are degrees of narcissism, and this has been combined with being a psychopath. I am avoiding nothing. I corrected the use of the general term narcissism. You, sir, are being judgmental, not me. You have been attacking Ms. Lewis since this article was posted. You are telling me what I am and what I must do. I don’t need to be bullied. I’m out of this conversation.

          • Charles J Shumar

            Well, im not judging you, just attempting to help you understand the difference between a type of criminal and a psychological disorder. You also accuse me of bullying you and of attacking ms Lewis. I have made an attempt to understand why you are acting as irrationally as you have in our discussion. I have also not attacked either you or ms. Lewis. I believe that ny accusing me of this you hop to get a anger filled response and I am not going to give you that pleasure. You do seem very angry and combative and would reccomend you seek professional help before it consumes you and develops into a psychosis. Good afternoon and may God help you, as it seems no one else can.

  • Suzan

    They who lie and deceive without conscience..walk away with your stuff..and your heart, and look for their next target to exploit.
    ‘You’ walk away with less than you started, robbed and lied too..but guess what?
    You still have your heart, as no one can take that <3
    Even when you lose..you still win~ you can get more stuff..Alternatively..they can never have a heart or conscience.
    "Pity their emptiness".

  • Arleen

    Uuugh I had the same problem Guy claims he works for the DEA and had to marry this chick because she’s under investigation been married ove a year now !!! People are great liars and vey good at deciving others some are pros at it They pretend to be this false self and then once they get the person in bed they show their true self !!!

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  • Elizabeth Torres

    Secret agent with the British Government. 😂😂😂

    • Cecilia A Sparks

      I have listened in court to a man embellish his resume; his flying monkeys sing his praises, knowing this is a one, maybe two, afternoon court case. He has, in the past, had disagreements with these flying monkey and now–of course, he’s been paying them back money owed. “Scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours.” Embellishment of one’s resume is hard enough to prove (confidentiality) to prove, and much harder when it’s abused in court, just like the job he may say he has. Many a brilliant man or woman have been in relationships with spies, and double spies. I don’t know why that’s part of your scorn of this victim. If a victim can “hard copy” ten lies a man has told, he/she should be listened to in court, not dismissed as someone just getting vengeance. Consider showing that duping victims will not be tolerated. Consider a framework for successful prosecution of these monsters. I’m a victim (not no.1, but no. 4) and I would gladly show you all my hard copy evidence. I believe you would change your mind, given the opportunity.

  • David Drato

    Since she was married when she started the affair with “the spy” (LOL) could her ex husband use this law if it passes against her since she apparently was lying to him?

  • Nikki

    Very interesting view point. I am active duty and we can get kicked out for adultery because it comes into question the integrity of the service member so being charged for this is nothing new. But, being specifically from a medical stand point it got me thinking that the cheater is also risking spreading damaging or deadly infections that I have personally witness cause infertility and side effects in new borns.

  • Wayne Rosenkrantz

    Anyone who cons someone else out of possessions or money should be prosecuted, but the recent feminist onslaught of laws against normal male behavior should be stopped. It’s as if women are untouchable goddesses and men are unentitled animals. 50% of all black men and 39% of all white males, between 18 and 55, have been put in jail.

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  • Andre Jaeger

    Would wearing makeup constitute “sexual assault by deception”? I’m pretty sure a wonderbra would.

  • Noodles

    And lying about their past…withholding very important information regarding the health history of previous lovers/spouses who have herpes/STD’s, etc. Absolutely immoral!

  • This law is LONG overdue. Intentional deception should be illegal in all cases! Sociopaths need consequence for their destruction!

  • Brioli

    About TIME!!!!! Totally support it!

  • Cal S.

    Or maybe just wait and get married? Whole lot harder to fake your way through a months-long, no ‘funny business’ relationships.

    What an outdated and antiquated notion, I know.

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