UPDATE: Burke Ramsey Slams Theory That His Mom Killed JonBenét And Discusses 911 Call, Ransom Note, and Pineapple

UPDATE (September 14, 2016):

Burke Ramsey revealed more details about the night that his sister JonBenét was killed in the second part of an exclusive interview, in which he discussed topics including his thoughts on whether she was sexually abused, the mysterious pineapple, the mysterious voices at the end of the 911 tape, and the ransom note.

On the ransom note: 

Dr. Phil directly confronted Burke about the theory that his mother Patsy may have written the ransom note. “I’ve never really looked at it closely,” Burke said. “It’s not something that I really want to look at a lot.” When shown a copy of the ransom note, Burke said the penmanship appeared “too sloppy” to have been written by his mother, saying “she would always bug me about having good handwriting.”

On the theory that Patsy could have flown into a rage and killed JonBenét over bedwetting: 

I definitely remember her and me wetting the bed maybe a couple of times a week,” Burke said when Dr. Phil quizzed him about the theory that Patsy could have killed her daughter in a rage over bedwetting — but he repeatedly said that he had never seen his mother fly into a rage. “We didn’t get spanked. Nothing of the sort. Not even close,” he added.

On the mysterious voices on the 911 tape:

Many experts have said that they hear three distinct voices on the 911 tape, and claim that Burke’s voice can be heard saying “What did you find?” at the end. Burke denied speaking those words or being present when the call took place, but added a qualifier: “I definitely don’t remember that unless someone erased my memory or something,” he said.

On the police interviews:

Burke visited a child psychologist 13 days after JonBenét’s murder and was asked to draw a picture of his family. He drew himself, his mother, and his father — but did not draw JonBenét. Dr. Phil explained that the observations leaked to the press implied that he displayed indifference and had difficulty opening up about the family. “I think I look like a normal kid. Maybe that’s just my personality. I’m a little reserved,” Burke said.

On the pineapple:

Dr. Phil also addressed the fragments of undigested pineapple found in JonBenét’s stomach, and the bowl that was found with Patsy’s fingerprints on it next to a glass of iced tea with Burke’s fingerprints. “Maybe. I don’t remember specifically eaten pineapple but we very well could have,” he said. “Would you remember eating pineapple 20 years ago?”

On the flashlight:

On the show, Candice DeLong explained that JonBenét was hit with something hard very hard with an unknown object, possibly a flashlight or similar type object. The blow knocked her into unconsciousness, and she could have appeared to be dead — but the actual cause of death was strangulation, which came later.

Burke said he remembered getting out of bed that night. “Yeah, I had some toy that I wanted to put together. I remember being downstairs after everyone was kind of in bed and wanted to get this thing out. I just remember being downstairs; I remember this toy.”

Some investigators believed that the two marks on JonBenét’s skin could have been caused by a stun gun, while others theorized that the “stun gun” marks could actually be train tracks that could have poked into her skin. Burke totally denied hitting her with a train set.

On whether or not he thinks JonBenét was sexually abused: 

Absolutely nothing that would lead me to believe that anyone was sexually abusing her in any way,” he said.

On his memories of JonBenét’s funeral:

He said that he found the funeral “weird” and “traumatizing” and remembers “wanting people to not be sad.” He said that he recalls his mother being distraught, saying that “she would cry and cry and then she would fall asleep or something and then she would cry again.”

ORIGINAL STORY:

For 20 years, experts have analyzed every piece of evidence from the scene of the murder of JonBenét Ramsey in the early morning hours of December 26, 1996 — but mystery has always surrounded her nine-year-old brother Burke, who was the only other person known to be in the house the night of the murder.

Burke, 29, now works as a computer analyst and has never before spoken publicly about what happened inside the house. He revealed to Dr. Phil in an exclusive three-part interview his memories of the night his sister was murdered.

Burke told Dr. Phil that he did not hear anything unusual during the night — until all hell broke loose. “The first thing I remember is my mom bursting in my room really frantic saying like, ‘Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh,’ running around my room looking for JonBenét. At that moment I was awake. She left, and you could kind of hear her freaking out,” he said.

Burke said he remembered a policeman coming into the room, and shining a flashlight. “I remember her saying, ‘Where’s my baby? Where’s my baby?,'” he said. “I just laid there and didn’t really know what else to do.

Dr. Phil pointed out that people may find it odd that he stayed in bed when a police officer came in with a flashlight. Burke responded: “To be fair, I didn’t know that it was a police officer. I guess I kind of like to avoid conflict. I guess I just felt safer there. I’m not the worried type,” he said. “I guess part of me doesn’t want to know what’s going on.”

He also said that he was “scared,” adding: “I didn’t know if there was some bad guy downstairs who my dad was chasing off with a gun. I had no idea.”

Related: Lt. Joe Kenda Answers The Question Everyone Is Asking About The JonBenét Case

In an interview with the Boulder Police Department in 1997, according to a transcript posted on ForumsForJustice, John Ramsey was asked specifically if Patsy’s screaming woke Burke up, but he insisted that his son remained in bed and asleep.

OK. “When you checked on Burke, did he, was he disturbed at all by that, did he wake up at all by that scream?”

 

JR:  “No, he was asleep still.”

Burke also told Dr. Phil why he has been reluctant to talk to the media before now.

For a long time the media basically made our lives crazy,” he said, explaining that a simple trip to the supermarket could become a “chaotic nightmare” where he would see tabloids with his and JonBenét’s picture on the cover. “I was pretty skeptical of any sort of media,” he said. “It just made me a very private person.”


He also shared his happy memories of the Christmas morning with his sister, and shared that he and JonBenét came downstairs to peek at their gifts — which included bikes, a Nintendo 64, and a dollhouse. The last time that he remembers seeing his sister alive, he said, was in the car on the way back from Fleet White’s house — where he and his parents had attended a Christmas party that day.

When said that when he went downstairs, he remembers the slightly surreal scene unfolding as he was told that his sister was missing — and telling the police officer who broke the news that she “was probably hiding somewhere.”

I have an image in my head of the kitchen, and it was really early morning, and there are a lot of people around who I don’t really know.” Dr. Phil revealed at the end of the interview that he will ask Burke about the pineapple and voice on the 911 call in the second installment, and weighed in on Burke’s behavior during the interview, including smiling and laughing — which many viewers found bizarre.

Related: JonBenét Ramsey: 20 Years Of The Unsolved Child Murder In Pop Culture

This is a very socially awkward young man,” Dr. Phil said on Today. “He has not had the social contact that most kids have growing up. When you have reporters at the end of your driveway, you can’t go to school. And even now, he works as a computer analyst, but he works remotely … he’s not around people.” 

People are going to be very interested in his demeanor, and they’re going to find his demeanor atypical,” Dr. Phil said. “He might be talking about some pretty dark aspects of this story, and smiling while he’s talking about that.”

Read more:

ForumsForJustice.org

Today.com


JONBENÉT: AN AMERICAN MURDER MYSTERY follows experts as they reexamine the evidence of one of the most baffling and infuriating cold-cases of all time, using the latest technology, insights from specialists who have studied the case for more than two decades, and interviews with new and old key players. Watch the special three-night event beginning Monday, September 12, Tuesday, September 13 and Wednesday, September 14 at 10/9c on Investigation Discovery or any device with ID GO. 

Main image: Burke Ramsey [Photo: Dr. Phil.com (screenshot)]



  • Sandy Gibbs

    The mother did it! JoBenet wet the bed and she probably snapped! The note looks like her mom’s writing. Leave the kid alone

    • DA-BIG-D

      No. This was more than a “snap.” The mother probably would have yelled at her, if she snspped but not crack her skull, tie a ligature around her neck and hands, put duct tape over her mouth, etc. Besides, Jon Benet competed in pageants when she was awake, not asleep so as to wet the bed in front of everyone.

      • Concierge

        A mud were brings their weapon, etc. w/ them. In this case, the note was on family stationary, & the things used were from the house. Inside job/accident. No outside murder weapon found is a huge red flag. No hair or solid evidence of an outside intruder?! Cuz there was none!

        • Tron

          Actually, just because you don’t know about it, doesn’t mean there wasn’t. Dog hair was found, for example. As for outside murder weapon, where did the nylon cord some from?

          • Concierge

            They had evidence it & another item was bought by Patsy at a hardware store. Read interview by this retired police chief on Reddit. No evidence of an intruder.

          • Concierge

            The retired Police Chief during this case, said in a Reddit interview, they had proof that cord & another item were bought by Ramsey’s at a hardware store. Receipt?

          • Tron

            I’ve read about that receipt, and it was not conclusive because no items were listed on it. That is heresay.

          • Concierge

            Nothing in this case was conclusive. Nearly everything is contradicted. It’s ludicrous. Do U work in the legal prof., or R U just interested in this strange & bewildering case?

          • Tron

            Heresay. The receipt was not itemised and could have been for anything. As for that Reddit interview, it’s now been deleted. Why? Looks to me like that guy was retracting his comments.

          • Concierge

            They gave him a password & he said he thought it was a Members Only interview. He wasn’t happy it was released publicly.

          • Tron

            Ah ok fair enough.

          • Concierge

            Why R U certain parents had 0 to do w/ a coverup? Cuz of heinous crime; diff. to fathom. RN is suspicious & parents had unreasonable terms re: police interviews & delays allowing evidence collection.

    • Concierge

      Burke said they both wet the bed when they were young & their mom never got mad about it.

    • Tron

      There was no evidence of a wet bed Sandy.

  • alienspet

    it was the mothers boyfriend. father was coming back into there lives with the new job position and I believe the wife told the boyfriends that they would have to stop. boy friend snapped when the parents were gone . he would know where the kids sleep and where everything in the house is and a alarm code he might even have a key to the house. is it to hard to believe that the mother might have a boyfriend when the father was away. the wife wouldn’t want to tell anyone about him based on the fact that she would loose everything.

    • DA-BIG-D

      Men aren’t vengeful the way mistresses are; threatening to expose husbands when the want to cut it off or won’t leave their wives for them. Men give the wives a little company and good sx. They never expect them to leave their wealthy husbands for them.

    • Rich Hall

      Garbage

    • Bizarre and not based in fact.
      What boyfriend?
      What do you mean by “father was coming back into there [sic] lives”?
      “boy friend snapped when the parents were gone”? –
      And? The children were not in the house alone. So what are you saying?

      It’s pretty obvious that you don’t know much about this case.

  • Wisconsinlady

    Burke probably has Asperger’s Syndrome which would make him socially awkward. My grandson has AS, and Burke’s actions are very much like his.

    • April Gist

      While its true that autistic people tend to be socially awkward, in his case, there’s many other reasons to explain it.

      His sister was found in their home and she’d been murdered. Typically, when parents lose a child, they become overprotective of their living children, even more so when its an unsolved case like this. Living with the press hounding everywhere he went didn’t help and not knowing if his own parents could have done it wouldn’t have helped either. And, at one time, the press and the police viewed him as a suspect as well. Trying to go to school with that… kids can be cruel, very cruel. After his sister was murdered, his life changed drastically. Think about it before diagnosing him based on similarities he shares with your grandson. For this young man, there’s no such thing as normal anymore. Normal was taken away from him 20 years ago.

      I say this as the parent of a young adult with Asperger’s, also as the cousin and now as a sister-in-law. I’m no expert on autism, or forms of autism like Asperger’s, but I do have an idea. And I know I’m not professionally qualified to make a diagnoses based on similarities he may share with the 3 people I personally know, especially considering how different his life has been compared to theirs.

    • Cruz Smith

      He does not have Autism nor Aspergers. Dr. Phil did a special episode friday 9/16 explaining that and then trying to excuse away Burke’s unbelievably odd behavior during the interview.

    • DoomBubba

      Why do people who aren’t professionals trying to diagnose this guy. Stop. You all sound silly.

      • Concierge

        They R expressing a behavioral observation & a poss. theory; not trying to DX him. Friends & a nanny said Burke had social & violence issues towards his sister. It was no secret. I think he needed ongoing pro help & didn’t get it, & he snapped.

    • leenie

      I agree. The video clip of Burke being questioned displays some rocking (stimming), lack of eye contact, and constant moving. In the video clip with Dr. Phil, the finger movement Burke makes is the same hand movement that my son sometimes makes. Burkes affect is off which is not unusual with somebody on the spectrum. They have a difficult time reading emotions. Young people with autism can be quite impulsive and have a difficult time controlling anger.

      • Pam Corscadden

        I also have a son on the spectrum. He had terrible behavioural issues as a boy and at times his sister was afraid of him. He had low self esteem and always felt that his sister was smarter, better looking and more loved than he was. Please understand that this was not his fault and we reached out for any help we could get. As an adult he now works a full time job and is doing well. However anger issues were always a problem. I could totally see an Asperger’s child going into a rage because a little girl who he resents to begin with, has taken a piece of his pineapple without his permission. She takes everything else, in his mind, the attention of his parents, his “centre of the universe status” that was his before she was born. He is probably sick to death of hearing how beautiful and smart she is. The taking of the pineapple, one of his favourite snacks and one that he prepared himself, would be the last straw. I honestly don’t believe that he intended to hurt her, but was lashing out in anger. I think the parents knew this and felt that JonBenet was gone, but maybe they could save him. As the parent of an Asperger’s child, you learn to cover up, make things look normal, wish that people won’t think your child is some kind of monster because you know in your heart that they are wired differently and don’t respond correctly in a lot of situations because they don’t or can’t learn that correct responses. You get so used to protecting them from the bullying and teasing that follow them where ever they go.

        Any other parents of Asperger’s children who could picture this scenario?

        • Tabatha Vassey

          I’m sorry but I have a 7yr old son with Autism, mood raging issues and more, as his mom I’m sorry but I have learned not to cover up anything he does. I love him dearly but if I covered up for him and made it seem everything was hunky dory he wouldn’t be getting the help he needs. By me being truthful about his issues is helping him get the help he needs. When people ask me why can’t I control him or have remarks saying if he was my kid I’d best his a**. All I simply say is please butt out, my child has autism and other issues with it if your not gonna say anything helpful or ask what you can do to help me, move along.

      • Sofus Lexner

        There is no nead to be nervous if there is nothing to be nervous about. Burke is in my opnion, an undignosed sadistic psychopath.

      • Concierge

        I doubt he has autism; he went to Rutger’s & is a computer pro. That takes a lot of focus, smarts & concentration. He has no obvious signs of autism. Many said he’s socially awkward & lacks empathy.

    • Sofus Lexner

      Did he kill his sister?

    • lisa

      agreed, people are so fast to judge someones behavior. My son also has aspergers and he is a wonderful person but awkward socially and does not process feelings typically or show them the same as most. It make sense to me a child would remember a special toy but not an evening snack, there was no DNA evidence or evidence of any kind to support that this boy killed his sister. My thought to all these people whom are so quick to judge, Image growing up as he did with the trauma, blame, persecution and isolation. Walk a mile in someone else’s shoes or at least try to imagine what they went through and understand why their behavior may seem different before you say a 9 year old boy killed his sister.

    • Tabatha Vassey

      My oldest son who’s 7 has Autism and has other issues along with it, he can be socially awkward but how Burke was acting as a kid and now as an adult, I think it’s more than just Aspergers. I believe there could be some kind of mental illness in there as well. Like scitosphernia (sp horrible I know sorry) My dads mom had it and everything Burke is doing and acting could be the onset of it.

      • Wisconsinlady

        You are probably right. Being on the autism spectrum is probably the LEAST of Burkes mental problems.

  • Eiríkr Karl Sørengaard

    A lot of people smile and laugh when discussing very uncomfortable things: It’s called the pseudobulbar effect.

  • MaryAnn Justus

    Good Grief Burke didn’t kill Jon Benet and neither did the Ramsey’s .

    • DA-BIG-D

      Well then who did? Most investigators are saying or have said many aspects of the crime scene were STAGED.

      • Concierge

        It seemed highly staged. Note & $ had 0 to do w/ the crime/accident.

    • Cruz Smith

      Burke Ramsey killed his sister. 9 year olds are capable of killing. His parents covered it up.

    • Carleton Legrant

      It is obvious that he did kill her they covered it up the ransom note was written by Patsy This is a sick person who needs to be locked up

      • Tron

        Quick, run and dig Patsy up and put her in jail.

        • Frivolous comments like this add nothing to the conversation.

    • Rich Hall

      Burke killed her. End of story.

    • Concierge

      There was no proof of an intruder & they had proof the nylon cord & another item was bought at a hardware store by Patsy about a week earlier. No intruder could’ve found all those things & the basement door in that house they said. The layout & light switches were unusual.

  • Charles Cunningham

    Has anyone ever thought that maybe all this traumatic experience might be socially affecting him. I mean, here is this young nine year old, who found his life of privilege, social acceptability, and charm turned upside down in the events, which happened one cold day twenty years ago. To make matters worse, his parents were accused of murdering or hiding a crime which dealt with the death of his young sister. On top of this disastrous botched police investigation, his mom also faced reoccurring cancer and died prematurely before she could clear her name of the involvement in the crime. I admit the case was riddled with errors which led to evidence being tampered with or totally destroyed and the even the body of the child was removed and this evidence was lost and gone forever. To top all this mess off, no perpetrator has been found. Most grown-ups are warped be small incidents from childhood relating to bullying and jealousy, but this poor man has faced one cataclysmic disaster after another to recover from. I am thinking if he thinks rationally at all, he should be empathized with and treated as someone who has had several rough spots to climb out of in life. Whatever happened to this child which caused her sad death, be it an accident or crime, this young man does not need to suffer one bit from further injustice, as he and his family appear innocent from any involvement in this crime. In truth, the ransom note does not appear to be valid, the crime scene destroyed by a loving father removing the body, and the home evidence also destroyed by not freezing the access to and from the home. These mistakes, coupled with the cleaning of the kitchen area make this case stubbornly hard to solve. In all appearance no one will ever know the true facts of the case. Her unsolved case joins many others which might be solved one day by a cold case squad, but who knows, maybe never? this case will be analysed for years to come unless some sleuth comes along to solve it.

    • Lextall

      Of course it all affected him socially. The family’s former gardener said in an interview that Burke was more reserved than JonBenet. His presentation isn’t so bizarre for someone who may have been withdrawn for his entire life.

    • Kilburn Hall

      As a local crime reporter on the scene let me make this perfectly simple. The crime scene was tainted. No prosecution or conviction could be forthcoming. Conpsiracy theories help sell newspapers and keep Dr. Pill (Phil) in business but they are not fact. It was believed at the timer that mother Patsy killed Jon Benet over the bed wetting / defacation and that hubby John, paranoid the reputation of hnis company Alpha Graphics would be tarnished covered it up. Cover up was a gross insult to the memory of an innocent little girl inflicting physical damage to the body, tazer burns Monsterous to think poarents could do something like that to their child. John Rasey is a monster who deserves to be raped and killed in prison.

      • I would agree with all but the last 5 words (raped and killed in prison” – wouldn’t wish that on anyone). Though I’m not convinced about who might have actually killed her. Always thought it was PR, too. But I’m starting to think it might have been BR. You’re probably right about the cover-up. Deplorable.

      • Rich Hall

        Sorry. Taser burns were debunked. Burke did this and the parents covered it up.

        • Concierge

          That’s the most logical scenario IMO. Burke had ongoing problems.

          • Tron

            Does he? Can you post evidence of that please?

          • Concierge

            It was reported that Burke struck her in face w/ a golf club “unprovoked” & a nanny confirmed witnessing this. A friend of the family thinks it’s Burke, due to the rage & strange behavior she witnessed in him against his sister. She said she was afraid to let her kids around him, due to his rage issues. I’m not the expert, I’m going on what was reported in Boulder. U R welcome to your opinion, as am I.

          • Concierge

            I lived in Boulder & based my opinion on both local & nat. news; since we got far more info. Police & DA politics were a huge problem. Nanny witnessed Burke hit her “unprovoked” in face w/ golf club. A friend reported being afraid of letting Burke ard. her kids, due to his behavior. 3

          • Concierge

            I lived in Boulder & was an EMT. We got much more info. than nat. news. He hit her in face w/ golf club unprovoked witnessed by a nanny. A friend & 3 neighbors statements who heard a loud scream, make some of Ramsay’s statements sound like a coverup. It’s a sad & frustrating case & people form various opinions cuz it wasn’t legally solved.

          • Concierge

            Read evidence from their nanny: he hit sister in face w/ golf club unprovoked. Family friends statements & 3 neighbors, etc. I lived in Boulder & was an EMT. Nat. news didn’t rec. all info. locals did. Unsolved so people have diff. opinions; it doesn’t mean we R right. DA politics hurt case & Co-lead police invest. quit over it. Nat. scrutiny was a huge problem; DA didn’t want the pressure/politics of wealth to deal w/.

          • Tron

            Not sure if the house keeper’s evidence is that trustworthy. Having read snippets of her “book” I am absolutely disgusted by her violation of trust of some very personal information of another individual. Shame on her. Oh and the golf incident – Burke was practicing golf and on his backswing JonBenet ran behind him and he accidentally hit her. These types of accidents between kids happen in every family – doesn’t mean the kid has “problems with violence”. As for the Boulder police, the misinformation they fed the media about the Ramsey’s was a gross violation of the rule of law and their civil rights. At best, it was incredibly unethical and only shows how deep their incompetence actually went. The lead investigator couldn’t solve a Scooby Doo mystery. It was obvious he was out for Patsy – and this behavior strikes me as fundamentally misogynistic. Shame on all of them – an innocent child receives no justice due to the behaviour of these complete rednecks.

          • Concierge

            U have good points. Boulder is safe & an alleged murder or an accidental death, later staged wasn’t their expertise! Too much contradictory info. to the public, makes it difficult to understand; even gold club incident. There R 2 versions!

          • Tron

            I see what you’re saying, but can I propose that maybe it was the other way around? The DA saw the police incompetence and felt the need to protect proper legal processes – including the fundamental right that someone is innocent of a crime until proven guilty. I highly doubt he was paid off.

          • Concierge

            Yes it could be either. Crime scene contaminated & he wasn’t fully confident they could get a conviction from the jury. The bed wetting & feces issues could have something to do w/ the crime. Mom was unstable & having problems. Blanket & pj’s in dryer due to bed wetting, proves mom was dealing w/ that issue. Maybe she finally lost it? We can only guess.

          • Tron

            I don’t think there’s any proof Patsy was having issues, that’s heresay. The bed was not wet that night. The blankets were not in the dryer – they were in a laundry basket on the second floor outside JBRs room. There is alot of information out in the media about this case that are simply not based on fact.

          • Concierge

            Exactly. That’s why it’s so confusing/frustrating to figure out the truth! Boulder cops refused help from well trained homicide Denver cops. That was their 1st egregious mistake; sheer stupidity & arrogance. They should’ve been fired. I did my EMT ER training @ Denver ER; a rude awakening. I lived in bucolic Boulder; when David K. of KKK came to town, that was the BIG bad news. Police were ALL over their rally!

          • Concierge

            Housekeeper or nanny’s book? Never heard that!

          • Concierge

            DA was part of the problem.

          • Concierge

            Why were they going to indict parents for 2 counts of child abuse, but DA wouldn’t proceed? Public never got that confidential info. for the jury. If Burke did it, even by accident, & parents covered it up. & staged it, that’s child abuse.

          • Tron

            Because they were disgusted by the beauty pageants. They felt that John and Patsy had exposed her. The DA wouldn’t proceed because there was not enough evidence for a conviction. DAs make these types of decisions every day of the week in many other cases. Are all the DAs corrupt in that case? As for the family being involved, JBR was TORTURED FOR HOURS. People don’t become psychotic overnight. Are you a mother? Can you imagine the cold callousness it would take to do that to your own daughter? JBR was the victim of a psychopath.

          • Concierge

            Interesting. I never read tort. for hours. Where did U read that??

          • Tron

            I really like you Concierge, you are sensible.

          • Concierge

            Did JB’s bed wetting & infections get out of control, & B’s spreading feces, & mom lost it? Isn’t 6 old, to wet bed? Was she rep. sexually abused per autopsy, & started talking? Who had motive to off her? Who was sick in the head? why was RN so long & looked like PR’s words & similar writing?

          • Concierge

            Thanks, from one erudite & analytical person, back at ya!

          • Concierge

            Looks like there’s an iron fence around their home. Wonder how an alleged intruder would get in. What about security alarm system? A wealthy (7 million) family w/ 2 kids & an expensive house, would have an alarm.

          • Concierge

            A few experts agree w/ U!

      • Tron

        The CBS documentary is also not really that factual. Aren’t they all jumping on the bandwagon? As for your final comment, that is a pretty good indication of how sick you are actually. Disgusting.

      • Concierge

        What mom would kill their child over bed wetting??

      • Charles Cunningham

        This would have been a very sad story to have to have investigated or been involved with in the solving of it. The crime scene letter bothered me greatly as I can not see anyone sitting at the crime scene to write such a long and drawn out ransom letter especially, when the child was already dead in the basement..

    • You discredit your entire post with this: “Whatever happened to this child which caused her sad death, be it an accident or crime…”
      There was no accident. There was a crime. The crime was murder.
      Then you went on: “… this young man does not need to suffer one bit from further injustice, as he and his family appear innocent from any involvement in this crime.”
      Innocent? Nope. Many of us will never believe that the Ramsey’s are innocent. One of them killed JBR and one or more covered up that murder. The only question is: Who did these things?
      from the article: Burke said he remembered getting out of bed that night. “Yeah, I had some toy that I wanted to put together. I remember being downstairs after everyone was kind of in bed and wanted to get this thing out. I just remember being downstairs; I remember this toy.”
      But he doesn’t remember whether or not he ate pineapple. Because that? That would be significant.
      Poor man? Right. Poor man is living with guilt. And shame.

      • Tron

        Alot of people believe the Ramseys are innocent. Thank you for sharing your opinion though.

        • “Alot”? Well, thanks for sharing your opinion, too.
          There was no intruder in that house that night. That was pure fantasy cooked up by Patsy and pushed by Smit. There were four people in the house and one of them died.
          Who might have killed JonBenet? Who might have struck her over the head? John? Patsy? or Burke?
          Look at the evidence and the behavior.

          • Sofus Lexner

            What I want to know is why an 11 year old boy cant recognize or identify pineapple.
            Burke is in my opnion an undiagnosed sadistic psychopath taking pleasure in his mothers agony and Dr. Phil is a cunning, exploitive buisnessman cashing in on a childs death. This was never about getting to the truth. Dr. Phil and John Ramsey share the same lawyer: Lin Wood. Dr. Phil was never in a position to conduct an honest interview.

          • Tron

            Your opinion is hilarious. A far fetched fanciful fantasy based on the crap that’s in your head. It’s very different in the real world sweetie.

          • Tron

            Sounds like you’re getting a bit too caught up in your own special little drama moda. Yep, alot of people (ie the educated part of society who understand the democratic system and the rule of law) realise the Ramsey family is innocent. Enjoy your TV.

          • My own special little drama? WTH? And maybe you can tell me more about “alot”? I’ve heard tell of these creatures, but I’ve never seen one.
            You see, I am one of those you describe: “educated part of society who understand the democratic system and the rule of law”.
            There is nothing innocent about anyone in the Ramsey family. There were four people in that house that night, and JonBenet was murdered. That leaves three. One of them murdered her.
            There was no intruder. That thing was debunked long ago.

          • Tron

            I doubt, based on your comments, that your education goes very deep. Or self awareness for that matter.

          • Now, that’s just funny, you challenging me about my level of education. Especially coming from someone who uses a non-word. You see, “alot” is not a word, buddy.
            And your ad hominem attacks mean nothing to me.

          • Tron

            oh sweetie, your attempts to be clever are very amusing. let me guess, you’re a 20 something male college student who thinks you are clever and wise for your age. yeah nah.

          • “sweetie”? “20 something”? “clever and wise for your age”?
            Don’t patronize me, Tron.
            You are not clever or wise, and I don’t care about your gender or how old you are. But you are off topic and out of your league.

          • Tron

            lol

          • Concierge

            I agree there was no intruder. There was no proof! Someone who knew that house intricately did this. Who? If not them; someone they knew?

          • Tron

            The evidence tells alot of different stories, and does not lead to one black and white conclusion. It takes an open mind to understand that.

          • Concierge

            Exactly. Why were Ramsey’s so protective of them trying to collect evidence? Interviewed after 4 mo.? Why did R’s delay it? Makes no sense. Repeated sexual abuse prior, yet NOT conclusive of occurring that night, was in an autopsy report. Who would’ve done that?!

          • Concierge

            Best comment re: this case!

    • Obviously

      Nope.. The kid was like that before her death.
      He did it, and his parents covered it up because they couldn’t bare to lose 3 childeren in one year. After all, Burke had to have warning signs that the Ramsey’s ignored. So in a sense, their negligence caused this. Back then, there was mentally challenged, or normal. There was no spectrum to understand this boy. The Ramsey’s were probably embarrassed by things like that.

      It was a desperate attempt to hang on to any sense of normal they had left.

      Scary what people do.

      • Tron

        What’s scary is that you hold this bizarre opinion. Do you even realise how ridiculous you sound? Get a life mate.

        • Concierge

          “No spectrum.” U R absolutely incorrect. I worked in healthcare for yrs., during & after college, incl. in Play Therapy to help kids psychologically in the hospital; worked in ER as an EMT, & in P.T. I’ve dealt w/ a wide spectrum of patients, & health care pros, & w/ police & investigators. There’s been a “broad spectrum” in mental health for decades! B. is extremely progressive; I lived/worked there; People’s Republic of Boulder is it’s nickname!

      • Concierge

        Not true. It wasn’t the dark ages!

      • Charles Cunningham

        I had thought there might have been an unfortunate accident which might have resulted in her death, but no one will ever know?

        • Cause of death was ligature strangulation.
          There were actually 3 crimes that night:
          Head bash
          Sexual assault
          Ligature strangulation

          None of these would have been accidental.

    • Concierge

      Experts thought/think the family did it; Poss. by accident.

      • Tron

        And there are also experts that think the family didn’t do it.

  • Lextall

    Not autism, he’s just weird. How could he not be?

  • Morgan Edwards

    He didn’t remember eating pineapple but he remembers getting out of bed to put some toy together. People don’t want to believe a nine year old would, or could kill his sister. But after reading about him, and watching different interviews with him, at different ages. His smile and actions are caused by something more then nerves. As a nine year old he behaved oddly and now as a grown adult continues to. I don’t think he intended to kill his sister. But I do think he did it, and that both his parents covered up the fact. Because neither one of them wanted to lose another child, nor did they want people to know Burke had mental health issues.

    • Tron

      In your opinion.

    • Agree with most of this. I think he probably didn’t intend to kill when he struck her, but that was his intent when he strangled her. I do believe that he did it all. Everything except the staging (tape on the mouth and cord on her wrists) and the fake ransom note.

    • jaynay

      Him and the dad should be tried now!!!!!

  • DragropeJustice

    Spoiled rich kid with emotional problems lashed out over something trivial and killed someone, parents covered it up. It’s an old story and should not be a controversy or surprise.

  • Laurie Wagner-Oliver

    Ya I think Asperger’s Syndrome is very possible?

  • Gerome Wright

    Dr? Phil can take his fake diagnosis and stick it where the sun don’t shine. He should be run out of town for that biased, BS interview. Burke is far from normal and his behavior shows it. What person with an iota of empathy could smile while talking about their siblings death?

    Nervous is one thing. But when recalling the horrific crime against his sister I’m sorry, I don’t understand his smile. I believe Burke committed this crime accidentally through horse play or rage and the parents conspired to conceal it to protect him and their standing in their community.

    Anyone that believes a killer or kidnapper would take the time to write a two and a half page ransom note then leave the note AND the body behind should have their head examined. Makes no sense at ALL. What killer would take the time to write a long note not knowing when someone would awake and find
    them in the home? What happened to the alarm system? How did the father know exactly where to find the body when the cop told him to check the house again? What sibling wouldn’t ask their frantic parent what was going on? Burke
    didn’t appear to have any sympathy or compassion for his sister then or now. Dr. Phil is a sham and so was that interview.

    • Get yo Dicks out 4 Pepe

      LOL, Dr Phil shares the same lawyer as burke and his father, Lin wood.

      • Tron

        Gosh, that definitely places them in cahoots. yeah. It’s not like lawyers have a strict code of conduct or anything.

    • Sofus Lexner

      Thats it. Burke is an undiagnosed sadistic psychopath taking pleasure in his mothers agony adn distress and Dr. Phil, is a cunning exploitive buisnessman cashing in on a childs death. Dr. Phil and John Ramsey have the same lawyer and thats why the socalled interview is pointless. Dr. Phil was never in a position to conduct an honest interview.

      • Tron

        Wow. You should write novels.

    • Concierge

      I agree. Burke lacks empathy & avoids everything about his sister; both then & now. He has major social issues.

    • Concierge

      I agree re: note & 118K. It’s a diversion tactic, to point blame on someone who knew him @ work. Why would outside intruder hit her head w/ family flashlight? They’d bring their own weapon(s).

      • I haven’t read that they were ever left alone at night w/o a sitter. Source, pls?
        Patsy wrote the note, but had no motive.
        Burke had ISSUES. Scatolia, Jealousy, and a sibling who got all the attention (flaunting herself – wow).

      • Tabatha Vassey

        Because maybe (gasp!) they didn’t want babysitters? Just because they were wealthy don’t mean that they needed babysitters. There are tons of wealthy people that don’t have nannies or sitters, there are some wealthy people who actually want to raise their kids on their own.

        I believe that they killed her accidentally and covered it up.

    • christine

      His father smiles too, constantly. Smiling is an attempt to show strength in the face of feeling like one is falling apart inside. But I do think the father killed Jon Benet while he was drunk and that he had been molesting her. Patsy had her own emotional problems and couldn’t face it.

  • Rich Hall

    Burke did this. He’s a twisted, mentally ill f**k

  • destiny luther

    burke ramsey and patsy ramsey did that to that sweet innocent little girl rest in peace jonbenet they know they did that and it doesnt take a genious to solve it her brother was jealous he did it and the mother helped

  • Tron

    The Ramsay’s are innocent.

  • Tron

    The Ramsay’s are innocent. Leave them in peace.

    • Innocent people do not do what these people did. Patsy quite obviously authored that so-called Ransom Note. She knew that her daughter was lying dead in that basement and she knew who had killed JonBenet.
      John might not have known until Patsy handed him that RN. But he then became complicit. The Grand Jury got it right. Patsy and John were both accessories after the fact in the murder of JonBenet.
      Oh – by the way, I have no doubt that you know it is not “Ramsay”. Perhaps you are Aunt Pam? Or maybe Susan Stine? This purposeful misspelling is very transparent. And sophomoric. Sit down.

      • Tron

        “These people” did not do anything to harm their daughter. As for your final paragraph – I burst out laughing at the ridiculousness of it. One thing this case has certainly exposed – the prevalence of ignorant and media-brainwashed individuals in society. God help us.

      • Concierge

        I agree that Patsy wrote the long note on her stationary. Certain phrases/words were unusual, but Patsy was known to say them.

  • Sofus Lexner

    Burke is an undiagnosed sadistic psychopath taking pleasure in his mothers agony and Dr. Phil, is a cunning exploitive buisnessman cashing in on a childs death.

  • Nidya

    He was sick n desperate to seeking help. He act very odd. I just cant trust him.

  • Shiquita

    Burke killed JonBenet and The Ramsey duo tried to cover it up, So they wouldn’t have to lose two children. Burke is a liar and not a very good one. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    • jaynay

      I agree with you entirely! He should be tried. Now! So should the dad.

    • jaynay

      You are absolutely right!

  • jaynay

    I guess that’s what money can buy. SMH

  • Miranda

    I have studied this case at length recently. I believe Burke is either a psychopath or a malignant narcissist with psychopathic tendencies. I would not be surprised if he is convicted at some point for further crimes (DV, assault, rape, etc) when he is in a situation where he is slighted or receives a serious narcissistic injury. He has probably tormented many people (and animals) in his lifetime. This conclusion is based on his police interviews immediately after the crime, when he was 11, and on Dr. Phil combined with his violent, aggressive behavior toward Jonbenet in the years leading up to her death. Dr. Phil is misleading the public about both the nervousness and ASD possibility. Burke is clearly antisocial but not without social skills. Burke may fall on the very mild ASD spectrum but this does not preclude the probability of psychopathy. This is a classic example of family dysfunction and homicidal child pathology and should not be seen as anything less malignant. A normal jealous child does not understandably act homicidally violent toward his sibling(s) and we should not normalize this in any way. A psychopathic child does, but we do not diagnose children as psychopaths. He most likely has/had had some conduct disorder symptoms, which is the child version of “pre-psychopathy”. Both Burke and Jonbenet still wet the bed at ages 9 and 6. This indicates some type of developmental disorder, regressive behavior, and/or exposure to trauma for both of them. I also think Patsy was a full blown BPD/NPD combination. Clearly the parents allowed Jonbenet to be at risk of her brother’s violent tendencies towards her and were in denial about it due to their own narcissistic need for an image of perfection. I believe their covering for Burke has more to do with maintaining their image of a perfect family (in their own minds) than for protecting Burke for other reasons. I also believe Burke killed Jonbenet intentionally and with malice and predetermination. His smile is due to the fact that no one will believe a child caused her death for any reason other than an accident. I believe he wanted her gone for a very long time. I believe he took the opportunity to inflict the mortal head injury while their parents were upstairs after midnight. He may or may not have been sexually assaulting her for a long time period. Whether he was or not has no effect on the fact he surely killed her. He may have moved the body but Patsy must have found Jonbenet shortly after Burke killed her and had gone back to bed, or maybe she found Burke with Jonbenet. Who moved her to the basement and staged the crime scene will never be known unless John Ramsey talks. John likely did some additional staging while the police were in the house the next morning while he was unaccounted for for 90 minutes. He may have further moved the body or used the paint brush handle to inflict the sexual assault but that was probably Patsy (her need for the perfect image and her objectification of Jonbenet would have over-ridden her love and care for her daughter at that desperate point). John may not have known about her death before 6AM that day, or he may have known after midnight. Patsy surely knew but put on a show of surprise for John in the AM in her comments towards Burke during the 911 call. Patsy may have colluded with Burke after the fact to misguide John. He may have been the voice of reason – suggesting they call police – and would not have gone along with the cover up until they were already in the middle of being accessories to murder with no other way out.
    As a society, we need to be able to recognize the psychopathic, antisocial people around us and not deny the obvious. This type of thing occurs in lesser degrees every day in communities in the US. As long as we attribute these things as being due to accidents, we put ourselves at risk for the damage these “people” do. IMO, Burke is the picture of psychopathy. Most of them are not as obvious as he is. He appears not only happy at being free from Jonbenet, but gleeful and without remorse. He also wouldn’t care if we know he did it – he cannot be tried for the charges due to his age at the time. He likely revels in the knowledge he is safe and can be arrogant about it – it feeds his ego and perception of superiority. This is a lesson for us as a culture of we want to learn from it. And anyone who is involved with Burke should be very, very careful, in my opinion.

    • Miranda

      I have also wondered if Burke colluded with an older male (12-14) to kill his sister, and let him in the house to do it. It could have been a teen male with a developing sadistic sexual motive who approached Burke and commiserated with him about his unfair treatment at home, convincing Burke to let him get rid of Jonbenet. Burke would be as culpable as the killer in this scenario, but would not have been involved in the actual murder.

      • jaynay

        Very good points. I agree with you. I never thought of that.

  • christine

    I believe Jon Benet was killed by her father. End of story.