The Manson Family Was Found Guilty — But Did Charlie Actually Kill Anyone?

NBC Dateline, Tom Snyder Interviews Charles Manson/screenshot

January 25, 1971, stands as the date when the Manson Family officially went down.

It was on that day that a Los Angeles court convicted homicidal hippie cult leader Charles Manson and three of his female followers — Susan Atkins, 22; Patricia Krenwinkel, 23; and Leslie Van Houten, 21 — on multiple counts of murder and conspiracy to commit murder for the two-night TateLaBianca massacres of August 1969.

On March 29 of that year, a judge sentenced all four guilty parties to die in California’s gas chamber.

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Atkins and Krenwinkel had actively participated in the slaying of Hollywood actress Sharon Tate and four others during the first attack. The next evening, Krenwinkel and Van Houten fatally tortured and stabbed supermarket executive Leno LaBianca and his wife, Rosemary LaBianca.

By all accounts, even that of the prosecutors, Manson himself was nowhere near the Tate crime scene and he did not physically interact with the LaBiancas. So why, then, was Charles Manson convicted of murder?

Manson masterminded and ordered the intricately plotted, coldly executed Tate-LaBianca killings. The members of his Manson Family cult acted directly on his behalf. Charlie instructed his disciples to create carnage that would spark “Helter Skelter” — a race war he predicted in which Black people would defeat whites and then turn to the Family for leadership.

The slayings, then, constitute a case of “murder by proxy” so archetypal that one common dictionary definition actually is: “Any homicide committed by one person on orders from another (e.g., a contract killing or the Charles Manson murders).”

So did Charles Manson himself actually ever directly murder anyone, then? The short answer is: not according to his criminal record. The longer answer is that Manson, who was a lifelong career criminal, has long been implicated and suspected for personally committing other murders for which he was never convicted.

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The most prominent of these cases is the July 25, 1969, torture slaying of Family associate Gary Hinman following what appeared to be a drug deal gone wrong.

Manson henchman Bobby Beausoleil, who is presently in jail for the crime, has changed his story more than once regarding Charlie’s presence at the scene. He has stated that Manson slashed and sliced off Hinman’s ear with a sword, and then ordered Beausoleil to finish the job. Subsequently, he’s said that Manson was never there.

After the actual killing, Beausoleil dipped his finger in Hinman’s blood and wrote on a nearby wall Political Piggy.” He also drew a paw print, then a symbol of the radical group the Black Panthers. The Family hoped that such “clues” would indicate the Panthers or another radical Black group.

On August 6, police found Beausoleil asleep in Hinman’s car, which had been reported stolen after the murder. Bobby promptly got busted for both crimes.

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A few weeks later, at the LaBianca crime scene, Patricia Krenwinkel wrote Death to Pigs” and “Healter Skelter” [sic] in blood. It constituted the Family’s attempt to implicate the Black Panthers’ presence at all three murder scenes.

Such a connection, according to Manson, would ignite the apocalyptic racial conflict, plus it would exonerate Bobby Beausoleil. No such outcomes came to pass.

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Other claims and suspicions of Manson committing hands-on homicide have arisen through the years, and they continue to do so.

In 2013, the LAPD seized recordings once belonging to Manson devotee and convicted murderer Charles “Tex” Watson on which Watson talks to his lawyer “about a bunch of other people Manson had killed.” No new findings resulted from those tapes, though.

Police then questioned Manson in 2016 regarding “Jane Doe No. 59,” a woman who had been stabbed in excess of 150 times and whose body had been discovered in 1969 near the various Manson activities. DNA tests determined that the unidentified victim was Reet Juvertson, who disappeared when she was 19. Investigators said their talk with Manson “did not produce anything fruitful.”

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Also in 2016, rock musician Mike Love stated in his memoir Good Vibrations: My Life as a Beach Boy that Dennis Wilson, the Beach Boys drummer and one-time close friend of the Family, witnessed Manson shoot someone to death.

Love claims Wilson came into a recording session woozy and stunned, saying, “I just saw Charlie take his M-16 and blow this Black cat [guy] in half and stuff him down a well.”

More allegations exist and, it’s possible, more will crop up in the future. So, again, Charles Manson was never convicted of actually murdering anyone by his own hand. Many experts and amateur followers of the case believe, however, that it’s probably just because Manson never got caught for it.

Learn more about the Manson Family in the “Evil Influence” episode of Investigation Discovery’s Deadly Women on ID GO!

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  • Martha Bartha

    Shorty Shea!

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    • Chad Gautier

      He was crazy. He woould have admided anything to look worse

  • Morri Eklipse

    “not according to his criminal record.” and the video is missing. What was shown in that video?

  • Andrew Phillips


  • Chad Gautier

    So he got in trouble for doing the samething religion does everyday. Just hides behind the wizards cloth. That pretty crazy. I am not saying he was a good person. But he really did the same as religion. Think about it.

  • Martha Bartha

    He was charged with 1st degree murder & conspiracy.

  • Sherri Willis

    He was a dangerous man and if he had gotten out of prison, he had the very real potential to kill.